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daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #120 on: December 02, 2014, 10:14:34 am »
Some guys that Ford met at the gym.

John

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #121 on: January 16, 2015, 07:54:52 am »
Been looking through these photos and getting all worked up about making a trip this year. There is some really great info in here, thanks for supplying it folks!

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2015, 09:50:57 am »
I am so glad I am not down in that hole this weekend.


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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2015, 02:53:23 pm »
I am so glad I am not down in that hole this weekend.

Your photo does not represent your feelings well, it looks very pleasant. 

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #124 on: May 19, 2015, 09:38:54 am »
I answered a few questions I had and came up with a few more questions that need answers this past weekend.




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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2015, 10:21:40 am »
purdy stuff, Dan. Cool rare angle on the back of Balloon and Condor Rock.

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2015, 10:28:25 am »
Curious to hear more about your trek, Dan. Great shots! You sure do walk the miles!

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2015, 01:08:29 pm »
That almost looks crossable. How many mile hike?  I'm in for a back of the BD trip after July onward...

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2015, 01:33:08 pm »
Oooooooooh. Lots of rock.

How was the hike?

Do tell more. Very interested.

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #129 on: May 19, 2015, 02:58:33 pm »
I didn't go up to the domes, just down to the river. A gate is closed until June 15 so I had to walk a mile of road then down to the river (total of about 2.5 miles and -2400' going in). Starting at 11:15 it was 2 hours from car to river then 2.5 hours back. Route finding is, as always, easier going up when you can see cliffs before you get to them. Just carried map, compass, water bottle and two cameras. There are several ways to cross the river and more than one way to get down to the river. There is poison oak near the river with bear tracks, likely rattle snakes, lizards and gnats everywhere.

I think with the safety of companions I would go a shorter, steeper route. If the gate is open, it would be perhaps 1.6 miles and -2000' down to the river then 1.1 miles +1800' up to the base of the upper condor rock. Now would be the time to go as I think there is probably water near the domes but probably won't be in summer or fall. Otherwise you could camp at the river and commute but the commute might be 2.5 hours going and 1.5 back with gear. This is probably the fastest way to summit BD (3.2 miles. +2800' -2100' one way) and could make a good day trip.

Summer or fall it might make more sense to take a 4 day trip from the Cassidy trailhead going to and camping at Cassidy Meadow/Rattlesnake Lake where there is water.

Look at the above photo of the east faces, nearly a mile of rock face and the only 5th class route in view is Beckey's on the far right skyline. The down side is that there doesn't seem to be much feature to the rock and bolting slabs makes for slow fa's and lots of hardware to carry.

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #130 on: May 19, 2015, 03:51:04 pm »

Summer or fall it might make more sense to take a 4 day trip from the Cassidy trailhead going to and camping at Cassidy Meadow/Rattlesnake Lake where there is water.


Mileage that way? Distance from the Lake to base of rock? If it's nominal mileage, that would be cool by me.

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #131 on: May 19, 2015, 05:10:49 pm »
To get to Rattlesnake Lake you start at the Cassidy trailhead and descend to the river upstream from BD. Two places to cross the river; you can wade or ride the cable car at Miller Crossing, or take the bridge at Cassidy crossing AKA the Cassidy Bridge.

Cassidy Bridge is shorter and the usual way. Going to Rattlesnake is only about 6+ miles -2400' +1600'.

Miller is longer, not as steep and not often traveled. Going out is 7+ miles -3300' +2400'. I believe this was the usual way to go before the bridge was built because horses can cross the river here.

You can also hire mules at the Minarets station to haul your stuff or you and your stuff to Rattlesnake. This is a good option for chubby guys approaching 60.

Here's a guy who hiked the loop with photos of the The bridge at the Cassidy trailhead, the Cassidy Bridge and the cable car at Miller.
http://jjolson.org/MiddleForkSanJoaquin2010-2.htm

To walk from Rattlesnake to the base of the middle dome is about 2.5 miles +800' -400'.

You could also camp nearer the rock and hope for water or shuttle to the lake for water. In June of 1972, Beckey says he camped near BD for a couple days and I would guess he found water.

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #132 on: May 20, 2015, 06:21:55 am »
The gate that is closed to June 15 sounds like it has to do with the deer migration through Mammoth Pools which is also locked until then. The deer are partying right now.

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2015, 10:11:56 am »
Cool share, Dan. You descended to the river further east than I thought you would, but I imagine it's more doable than further west, where there are more cliffs on both sides.

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Look at the above photo of the east faces, nearly a mile of rock face and the only 5th class route in view is Beckey's on the far right skyline.

You are forgetting about the other east face routes by the Black brothers & Michael Graber, and another recorded ascent with a variation to the East face route.

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Pics of Balloon Dome
« Reply #134 on: May 20, 2015, 11:34:36 am »
From the 1975 AAJ:

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Balloon Dome. After an abortive attempt in 1971 to find Balloon Dome, I returned in 1974 with the indefatigable Black brothers, Dave and Jim. During a four-day visit we climbed three new routes. West Face: the wall that faces Squaw Dome is dominated by an obvious, left-facing open-book. To our disappointment, the greater part of the book required aid. Seven pitches. NCCS IV, F9, A3. Boko-Maru: immediately left of a spectacular pillar on the northeast face is a smooth wall broken only by a sinuous dike which winds up and left. Two pitches led to the base of the dike and seven more of superlative climbing followed it to the summit. Nine bolts were placed. NCCS III, F9. East Face: we climbed the first chimney system to the left of the above- mentioned route for two pitches and then traversed right on challenging face climbing to a crack which we followed to the summit. Eight pitches. NCCS III, F9.

Michael Graber, Buff Mountaineers

I thought of the west face route but forgot about the others.

I have always assumed that the "spectacular tower" is Beckey's route so Boko-Maru would be next to the pillar on the right skyline. Their East Face would be next to that and on the face which is edge view in my photo. I am not certain where the routes are but think all three would basically be the right skyline although their East Face route might be in view.

I'm guessing their east face is under the words Balloon Dome on the topo map and not much of the face is visible in my photo.

Anyway, you are right and I neglected a couple routes but my intended point is still true, there are no 5th class routes anywhere in my photo except near the right skyline. I doubt there is a formation as big as the two Condor Rocks in California that hasn't been touched by climbers. I would really like to be the first to do so.