John, I am also an offroader, as I get older , and recover from knee surgeries, a bad back ,more and more of my focus is directed toward motorcycling and dispersed camping. In fact those were the gist of my questions to the moderator on the pro monument site, motorized use and commercial thinning of the forest, extremely evasive responses is what I received. anybody who is out in the forest alot knows just how dry and overgrown it is,maybe not bushwacking uphill through slide alder in the N.W. overgrown , but overgrown nonetheless. we need to thin these forests now before a fire breaks out ,that consumes the entire damn forest. On the issue of roads, again evasive responses, like any existing road will stay, well I say and have seen existing roads and trails erased with the stroke of a pen and a gate erected soon after. I would encourage everybody to make up their own mind, and then get out vigorously on any site you blog or post on,and spread the word.