daveytree, you forgot some of the best routes on the south face, second honeymoon, for the grade could be the best route at fresno dome, and jerry's super fun 2 pitch route, poking popa bear, and last week i put up on the cauliflower wall on top of the south face, apple jack's, i am done with getting all the info i need to put out a new guide book for fresno dome/ wamello dome, i should have the book done and ready for sell by the end of this month. and yes golden eye arete is an awesome climb and all you southern yosemite climbers should check it out as well the other routes amy and i put up this season on the west face area, happy climbing mike a.