Big Group at Balls

[DaveyTree]

Just a heads up. Sept. 12-15  summit adventures will be at the Balls with 160 kids.

[John]

Sheesh. Is that even legal to guide that many people out there?

Thanks for the heads up. I can't imagine that many people out there. That is like the entire population of North Fork!

[NateD]

Davey, do you help guide for them? I've ran into some of the guides over the years and they were all nice guys.
That's a huge group indeed.

[Jerry]

Summit is a big time abuser. A number of years ago I found them back packed to Upper Jackass Lake with nearly 100 people. The limit is 15 including guides but I don't know what the front country limit is if any.

[DaveyTree]

I have helped with a climbing camp from Calvin Crest off Sky Ranch Rd for the last few years. I have never help Summit Adventures. I met Grahm and Sarah Ottley at Hawk Dome and shared a camp fire for a few hours after. Grahm just emailed me and asked so I accepted. We shall see. Hard to resist going to the Balls even if I will be instructing more than climbing.

[bob steed]

I remember a year or two back seeing huge group of guided kids toproping all those bolted lines on the formation (School Rock?) East of Boulder Garden Slab.   Seemed like a good place for such a large group.  They did not impede or annoy... and the "kids" were great- I think they were all going to be RA's at college dorms and the outing was a team building something or other. 

[DaveyTree]

Prob same type of thing this year. Let you all know when I get back.

[John]

What Bob said made me think that the ages of the kids defines how insane or tame the group may be. Sure would be fun to be part of such a big group, just not so awesome to be the neighboring campers!