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Title: Knobs
Post by: John on May 31, 2013, 07:47:55 am
No really, just photos of knobs.

Chickenheads, knobs, fins, etc. There are more names, but I am drawing a blank right now.

Some are so big I am not sure what to call them.

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/P1000423_zps5f9aa5f3.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/P1000423_zps5f9aa5f3.jpg.html)

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/P1040160_zps43a162af.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/P1040160_zps43a162af.jpg.html)

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/007_zps382bed57.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/007_zps382bed57.jpg.html)

"happy climbing"
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/P10105722_zpsa6bfaa6c.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/P10105722_zpsa6bfaa6c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: jeff on May 31, 2013, 08:29:02 am
Weapons of mass destruction.  Don't even think about falling in those mine fields.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on May 31, 2013, 08:45:57 am
Weapons of mass destruction.  Don't even think about falling in those mine fields.

And if yer really unfortunate, weapons of ass destruction. Bada bing!
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: jeff on May 31, 2013, 08:50:26 am
If you fall and one of those things gets impaled in your ass is it still free climbing or considered aid/hooking???
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: mungeclimber on May 31, 2013, 09:05:23 am
Platebarnacles

god, that's a good name for a route!
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: mungeclimber on May 31, 2013, 09:06:09 am
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7420/8758510438_20b137870c_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on May 31, 2013, 09:17:25 am
This thread cracked me up. That would definitely be aid.

Coolest thing is being able to cam place between solid knobs. 
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on May 31, 2013, 10:28:39 am
Ah, this is an alluring thread - and surprisingly started by someone who I recall saying something to the effect of how he despised all those &#@% knob fields everywhere at Shuteye, as they make the steep climbing too easy.  ;D

Well that's exactly why a mediocre climber like me likes 'em so much! Not to mention the added bonus that they minimize the need for laborious bolting!

Quote
Some are so big I am not sure what to call them.

Gargoyles?

Here's Jerry on a big fin:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oaJN4DKLewM/UajX8pw4aLI/AAAAAAAAAHg/HB5TBjG7kAw/s912/0360158194028_R.jpg)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on May 31, 2013, 10:46:44 am
John,
Where are the vicious looking knobs in the obligatory "happy climbing" shot? Upper right side of Grey?
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on May 31, 2013, 11:13:58 am
Nate
Without looking it up, I think it is either Rainbow Connection or Escher's. There are some "knobs" on the North end of Gray that are like totally like giant gargoyles.

You could play hide and seek amongst them.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: mungeclimber on May 31, 2013, 11:17:41 am
exaggeration?  hide and seek?  dang


plateacles?

knobacles?


Interesting thought on the geology... it seems that the knobs are mostly on the lower angle terrain. Not that there isn't steep knobs, cuz there is, but most of the really good knobs (incut) are on the low angle space, it seems. This makes me think the corrosive/eroding aspect is a product of snow and the solidity of the rock, more than mere run off playing against the solidity of the rock.

any geologists have theories on this?
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on May 31, 2013, 11:28:32 am
Been trying to get you to come out to places where there are lots of steep knobs. Lost Eagle is just one example.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on May 31, 2013, 11:49:14 am
The knobs seem to become more plate-like on steeper terrain, and more ribbed, rounded, horn-like, and just plain strange on the lower angle rock.

Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: DaveyTree on June 04, 2013, 06:06:33 pm
Lovin this site and all the current input and not randon BS, Just climbing.

I have to say I like knobs and holes. Natural pro you can sling. Probably because I need more to hang on to or because most of my climbing is up 168 and horns like those arre far and few between. All this rock porn has me re-thinking my plans and projects.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on June 04, 2013, 08:07:47 pm
DaveyTree

We all look forward to hearing and seeing what you do on your Soyo adventures too. Glad you are enjoying the site.

The absolute best thing about Soyo are the climbs protected by only using the features.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on June 05, 2013, 08:02:48 am
Probably the best known knobs-only crag, Melting Wall of Lost Eagle.

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/P1000820_zps7b5be8ac.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/P1000820_zps7b5be8ac.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 05, 2013, 10:26:29 am
What a zoo.

Ger nutting in the knob clusters
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kiTmPqgmS84/UajYoqV6AjI/AAAAAAAAAHo/dEXNyb4Kpw4/s1152/Setting%2520A%2520Nut.jpg)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 05, 2013, 10:29:47 am
most of my climbing is up 168 and horns like those arre far and few between.

Davey - isn't there some knobs up at Bald Mtn. and vicinity? Maybe not slingable (new word).
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: DaveyTree on June 05, 2013, 11:12:21 am
There are a few here and there at diff rocks. Some good ones on a project dome been working but not near the extent of entire walls like SOYO.

Bald Mtn is the only Dome up 168 I haven't been to. I always thought it was face. Might have to tick that.

I actually use 'slingable'. Haha.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 05, 2013, 12:28:42 pm
Maybe I'm mistaking Bald Mtn. for some pics I recall seeing somewhere online of Condome. Never been to either, so what do I know...

I'm sure slingable is in some sort of climbers's dictionary - I know I didn't invent it.

Hmmm, but it's also the urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slingable

I prefer lassoing knobs, myself...
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: DaveyTree on June 05, 2013, 03:04:23 pm
Lassoing is a good one. Makes it sound more desparate....

Condome is cool. There are a couple sporty routes up an area of gold colored rock that has some small nobs which remind me of the small wall on the east side of Nightwatch on the decent. Most of the Condome ones I remember are more water runnel areas with have created more side pulling flake/nob holds. Condome was my very first FA, 'Beginner's Play' with bolts that Dwight Kroll loaned me by hiding them in the weeds at his front gate off 168.

I have a pic and will post once I figure out how.

Sort of figured it out;
(http://mob1119.photobucket.com/albums/k628/Nozukes/PicsArt_1369116066775.jpg?t=1370479744)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on June 05, 2013, 03:29:02 pm
With so much climber jargon, I don't even realize when using it much... til a non-climber I'm talking with gets that glazed-eye look. I remember a group of us going to a Mexican restaurant after climbing Chingando - got a lot of hard stares discussing climbing that night.

Here's a fun field of knobs
(http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx99/susangodar/elfdelk.jpg) (http://s745.photobucket.com/user/susangodar/media/elfdelk.jpg.html)



Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on June 05, 2013, 05:57:01 pm
I remember using a nut on a small knob like a bolo tie somewhere. You slide the nut part down, put the loop over said knob, then cinch the nut snug against the knob. It is the same technique you use for rivets or old bolts with the hanger missing.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 05, 2013, 09:05:35 pm
Nice, John. But would you have taken a whipper on the little thing? ;D
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 05, 2013, 09:10:46 pm
Looks like some fun ribs there, Susan. FA photo? I think I spy a hammer.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on June 06, 2013, 01:59:48 am
Yes, it is Elf Boot above the boot.

Was looking for a photo of cammed knobs which this photo has a few of, but they aren't really visible. Actually, one of the cams, john later told me came out... The others were good though, and the rock solid.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on June 06, 2013, 05:56:20 am
Nice, John. But would you have taken a whipper on the little thing? ;D

Ya know, there is no reason that wouldn't be bomber but I picture doing that on something like a sandstone knob and might re-think about falling on that rig.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on June 06, 2013, 02:45:57 pm
Does all of that gear make my butt look big?
And all I really needed were a few nuts and some tie-off slings for this pitch. But when you are headed into the unknown, best to be prepared I say.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GVxvLQkjHGQ/UbAQYvXMogI/AAAAAAAAAIg/nOXsKzg357k/s1280/DSC04238_2.JPG)
pic by Leo
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on June 06, 2013, 02:54:04 pm
Good thing you got rid of those pesky slings. They seemed to be weighing you down.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on June 06, 2013, 03:06:12 pm
That IS quite an array of gear! Nice shot, Nate! I guess the big bros will fit over the knobs, and if you run out of slings you can string the gear together... :)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: John on July 08, 2013, 12:59:29 pm
Bomber and somehow equalized too.

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jhgodar/Public%20Pics/P1050140_zpsebe46d98.jpg) (http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/jhgodar/media/Public%20Pics/P1050140_zpsebe46d98.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: jeff on July 09, 2013, 08:11:28 pm
Nate, can't say I noticed your butt. But damn brother, you gots some nice legs.
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: NateD on July 09, 2013, 09:02:34 pm

Golly, thanks Jeff (blushing). Some friends just call 'em toothpicks...
Title: Re: Knobs
Post by: susan on May 09, 2014, 11:49:52 am
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/setageus/P1100246.jpg)

Holes near knobs good for gear

Though many knobs are bomber, it's good to test especially the softer/larger grained rock type and have seen some with not obvious fracture lines.