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DaveyTree

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #60 on: July 30, 2015, 12:08:04 pm »
I have gone cheap and just use the regular sports tape. It comes in colors but I just go regular white because it usually turns brown after a while anyway and the white keeps the grip from getting hot during a summer romp hanging off the harness. I find I use less grip strength, with the ridges, after a lot of use.

I will snap a picture this weekend and post it up since I have it hanging in a tree next to my current project wall.

John

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2015, 12:28:09 pm »
Thanks for clarifying the pin thing. Are the pins peened on one end? I can easily grind the pin, re-set the wedge, and re-drill and pin...Back in bizness

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #62 on: July 31, 2015, 01:39:06 pm »
The early ones were a piece cut from a nail peened on each ends. The later hammers use a hollow spring pin.

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2015, 09:56:17 am »
It occurred to me that after all the hammer/drill/holder speed testing, I had not tested the whole package: a DAMMERR, a bayonet holder and a sharpened bit. So I did. The only other improvement I can think of would be to use a shorter bit with a fatter shank but I don't have one right now. My arm is weak since I haven't drilled anything in about a year but I went ahead and tried anyway. My arm was pretty pooped out by the end which caused me to get sloppy and the bit to bind a little bit but I drilled a usable 3/8" bolt hole in 4m 30s.

The fastest drill rate in my tests last year was 0.44 inches per minute. Yesterday I managed 0.47 inches per minute.

Time shortened video on YouTube:

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mungeclimber

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2015, 10:00:48 am »
sik!

now get a plastic bucket, turn it upside down, sprinkle dirt on it, throw some black lichen in the air, look up, rub eyes gently, step up onto the bucket and try the damerr combo system!!

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2015, 10:01:29 am »
ION, my best time, perfect stance for an anchor was 12 minutes in granite.

I can go faster in Pinns rock, but that's cheating.

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2015, 10:55:26 am »
Damm!


John

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2015, 07:26:12 pm »
Sub-five minutes sounds pretty dern good! I have never timed a hand drilled 3/8" hole but they all feel like 30 mins.

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2015, 09:00:25 pm »
Sub-five minutes sounds pretty dern good! I have never timed a hand drilled 3/8" hole but they all feel like 30 mins.

the depth is what makes or break the 20 min mark. On the Godar Shorty 3/8" bolts, they can go fast. On the Powers sleeves, yeah, gunna be there a while so wear your stiff shoes.

daniel banquo merrick

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2015, 05:37:14 pm »
Another drilling experiment to report.

I have some 10mm x 110mm drill bits that I got from the UK a long time ago. When I first bought them, they seemed pretty good and then later the tips blew out in less than one hole so I gave up. After learning more about how sudden temperature changes destroy carbide, I realized that these bits started blowing out when I switched from hand sharpening them with a diamond file to using the green silicon carbide grinding wheel. So, I decided to try them again.

I believe that shorter bits will drill faster and that steps in the shank diameter will also slow down drilling. In hopes of making a fast drill, I put the bit in the lathe and tapered the little step in the shank. I sharpened the bit by hand and also reduced the width of the tip by hand to match a 3/8" bit.

I set to drilling and 7 minutes later, pouring sweat, I had a 2.1" deep hole. After the initial bum-out, I tried to figure out what went wrong and why it was so slow. I found that the angle between opposite faces of the tip is larger than the bit I used in the last test. So the 10mm bit was sharp but the tip angle wasn't as acute. I need to not only sharpen but change the angle of the tip. This will be hard work by hand and I wish I had a wet, diamond wheel but they are expensive.

Anyway, the bit held up fine for one hole anyway and I think the trouble I had was the heat generated in bench grinding and the fact that I kept quenching them while grinding trying to keep them cool.

If you want to try short 10mm bits I think these are OK. I got them from seller UKDrills on Ebay. Seems to be the same as this website: www.ukdrills.com Item 48.100110 £10.46 for ten. Might be easier to contact them through Ebay. The only marking on the bit is a 10 in a circle so I don't know where they are made.

For sharpening I bought an EZE-LAP 36C 1 by 4 Coarse Diamond Pocket Stone with Sheath on Amazon for $15 which I like.

If anybody wants a DAMMERR T-shirt, contact me.
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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2015, 05:57:14 pm »
I measured the angle between the faces of the tip getting 80 degrees for the fast bit and 95 degrees for the slow one. I measured the angle perpendicular to the edge

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2015, 07:27:59 pm »
Keep on sperimenting!

So you are expecting about 5 minutes a hole for 3/8" shortie bolts? Most wouldn't be so bummed at 7 minutes for a 2.1" hole.

I would think the flutes are too short on that bit and would need to be cleared out more often to prevent binding from dust. Did you get much binding?

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2015, 09:06:38 pm »
*LIKE*

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2015, 09:51:57 am »
Dan - Liking the promotionals! Please I would like to order two tee shirts. One large, one small. And the different stickers. Let us know the details and I will pay up.

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Re: Dammerrs (hammers)
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2015, 11:45:57 am »
OK Susan, I'll email you.

John,
Sharp bits with a narrow tip seem to make larger stone chips which bind up. This slows down drilling but fewer hammer blows are required - which might be fine.

I resharpened the stubbie bit so the tip was at 80 degrees and I had to keep clearing the hole due to binding. Time wise it didn't seem so fast but I felt like it was removing a lot of rock with each hammer blow.

Some rainy weekend this winter we should get together and let everybody try different bits, sharpness, tip angles, holders and hammers.